We have an important development regarding the AgentSPE project structure. After careful consideration and review of recent operational requirements, we have decided to formally separate our collaborative efforts to address DeFines liability concerns.
We have decided it is best for the AgentSPE and Sarah project be separated from DeFines project. DeFine will continue with Embody as his separate project.
Current Status
Our live-streaming AI agent pipeline, including Sarah has achieved significant milestones through our collaborative efforts. The pipeline has undergone extensive updates and improvements, and Sarah is currently operational in chat mode with strong user engagement. Her conversation capabilities, movements, and expressions have all been substantially enhanced, which aligns with our original AgentSPE vision for live-streaming AI agents.
DeFine is working on Embody (currently known as Agent Net), which brings Autonomous embodied economic agents into the Livepeer network. This has also achieved great progress and DeFine is very excited to bring Embody to life via the BYOC offered to Orchestrator’s to run and in turn, receive inference credits.
Proposed Separation Terms
To resolve the liability concerns with the two pipelines, while allowing both projects to continue independently, we propose the following arrangement:
Financial Settlement:
Remaining wages: 2,000 LPT (covering DeFine through the end of Phase 2, 6-month period)
Expense split: 1,473.8 LPT (DeFine’s share of the remaining 4,421.6 LPT divided among three parties)
Inference credits: 3330 LPT (one third of the remaining inference credits) Enabling DeFine to independently utilise the inference credits for Embody to disperse to the Orchestrators
Ongoing Support:
The rest of the team payments including contractors payments will remain the responsibility of AgentSPE
Moving Forward
We encourage DeFine to continue his dedicated work on his independent path. We will continue to work with DeFine in a parallel capacity, which we believe addresses the liability concerns while allowing both projects to thrive.
This separation will enable us to proceed with Phase 2 while resolving the liability issues that have emerged. We believe this approach serves everyone’s best interests and allows our respective visions to develop freely.
We want to thank DeFine for the fantastic collaboration and look forward to seeing how both projects evolve.
It’s all well because Sarah, I imagine, will not be funded by Livepeer treasury anymore since it has its own token and funding. Right? Next time, instead of asking for Lpt from Livepeer treasury, Sarah will spend its own tokens. Right?
Sarah is on its own now. Livepeer could still market it on socials of course but “no. more. money.”
Hi @obodur, on the contrary, Sarah is not funded from Livepeer. The Livepeer funding has gone to building tech with @DeFine@Titan-Node work and our animator Dane’s developments via Unreal engine.
Over the next few months we will be rolling out all the tech behind AI Agents, as an example, Sarah, as it will be a new revenue pipeline for Orchestrators on Livepeer. Exciting stuff!
Hey @obodur, this is needed to address liability concerns between the projects that came out of the Agent SPE effort. We had an amazing run with @ChaseMedia and @Titan-Node and I am really grateful for everything they did to help us. Without their assistance the Embody project wouldn’t be alive.
Moving forward, we are setting up all the dedicated tech and legal structures for Embody which we plan to launch as a full token depended network at Q1 2026 - The Embody Network stays consistent with the Agent SPE Phase 2 tech deliverables as it will act as a scalable network to deploy tokenize and operate the autonomous embodied economic agents.
We will continue working together in features that intersect both projects (ex. Unreal Engine Game containerization)through open source commits.
The separation of projects allows all parties to fully pursue their common mission of expanding the Livepeer network and creating value for orchestrators.
Hi @Authority_Null thanks for asking! Essentially we are two separate entities. However, for the remainder of phase 2 proposal we are still doing weekly calls with the whole team and completing the remaining milestones.
We are using a lot of the same software so there is still overlap, though going forward we will have two different names with two separate financials.
Combined, we are each still working toward the success of AI Agents on the Livepeer network.
Hi @Authority_Null thanks for the question. DeFine wanted to separate for liability reasons. We feel - Phoenix and Titan, needed a marketable product, already gaining adoption, before bringing in lawyers, memorandums/agreements that required signing and a corporate formation.
DeFine is concerned with liability issues and his preference is to continue his work with Embody as a separate project away from the AgentSPE.
As DeFine is a core member who assisted with the proposal and has been involved for the majority of the AgentSPE proposal period; DeFine would love to continue building out Embody and we felt it only fair to disperse the funds equally between members so we can each continue to strive for the main goal of building AI Agents, operating on the Livepeer network.
Thanks for your questions, always happy to provide answers, thanks.
As @ChaseMedia said, there were some disagreements on how to proceed that lead to the separation. It is clear after the separation that Agent SPE and Embody are separate projects that share common goals. We continue being in close contact with the Agent SPE members and work on those common goals as different teams. Embody is being developed on top of all our existing work as a fulfilment of the Phase 2 promises relevant to autonomous agents, it is not by any means a new project but rather the consolidation and continuation of our tech and vision so far.
Ah gotcha, well this was the original goal of SPE’s anyway - to fund and grow projects - not necessarily to be the project itself. I just wonder, if the Agent SPE does plan on developing things, like Sarah, will that have to be outsourced to a new dev? From what I understood @DeFine was the main dev for the SPE.
Yes we’ve had this discussion internally as well about the just converting the Agent SPE into a funding vehicle only. (As per the original outline of SPEs)
That way we would continue to fund Embody (lead by DeFine), and the VTuber pipeline (lead by Titan) and welcome any other projects that have a vision for Agents within the Livepeer ecosystem to apply for funding directly through us. @ChaseMedia has already done a great job of reporting to the community and following the guidelines set out by GovWorks, I feel confident that the Agent SPE could be a good pillar for vetting and funding projects within our area of expertise.
But we would still need to ensure this is the direction we want to go.
Hi @Authority_Null, I see where you’re coming from, yes DeFine and Titan are both the devs. @Titan-Node will continue to develop the live streaming agent side working closely with @webRTCisCool - Dane our technical artist. While @DeFine will continue his goals with Embody. It’s exciting what Titan and Dane are currently developing - a Linux compilation of Unreal Game for pixel streaming!
